The scene: Glamour mag Miley Cyrus shoot
Lovely darling (click) now can you hold your guitar in front of you in a quasi-but-not-quite sexual fashion? (click) And smile! (click) Lovely. (click) And can you make the headstock inexplicably dissolve into your hair? (click) Lovely!
Thanks to fishing4monkeys! Original is here!
87 comments:
and in the hand...
At first I was wondering if the guitar was fake, or her hair. But if you look at her arms, the muscles aren't bulging out where they'd be contacting the guitar, so it obviously is the guitar.
There's other weird stuff going on here. Look at the inside of her right arm (our left) - what is up with that? It's like they trimmed some fat there or something, but I can't imagine she has fat inner elbows. Maybe they had the guitar on the other side at first and somebody forgot to save the psd?
Also, is that air in between her right elbow and body (just above the guitar)? If so, that is a really, really unnatural position - or she's got a big shark bite taken out of the side of her body.
She's not a real musician anyway, so it's not that important.
er, sorry, I meant air in between her LEFT elbow and body...
LMAO! As I always say, somebody got to be fired for that messy disaster... :)
I think that the guitar is real, only that they wanted to edit the hair so it looked more "blown" and erased part of the guitar by accident.
Now... she does seem to have a terribly tiny waist, like Jeff pointed out!
I hope they just altered the air. Since the other explanation would be, that she grabbed her testicles, preparing for a new career in gangsta rap
hair. I mean the hair.
Although, if you use it wrongly enough, Photoshop might also turn out to be powerful enough to fuck up the air. Like, vanishing it. Or turning it mysteriously transparent. Let me try that quickly...
"Your diagram doesn't account for the fact that the neck narrows as it goes up."
This.
I think Guandar is right because you can see the tuning thingy part (top of the neck) of the guitar--they wanted a wind-blown hair look and forgot to put the rest of the neck back in when they were done.
Paul, no guitar neck narrows that much. It's missing.
Slight amendation, Paul. This is two different pictures put together--the tuny part doesn't line up right with the other part of the neck--they don't meet in the middle.
ok, Paul, calm down... even if you are "right", it sure looks like a bona fide PsD. You can see air in Miley's hair next to her head, too, somewhere around where one would usually expect the guitar neck to be. So it really does look like it "disappeared" in touching up Miley's hair...
I'm a musician and I've never seen a guitar w/a neck that skinny at the top. But then, I'm a *poor* musician, so what do I know... :\
anyway, best of luck w/the next cover, ok?
I also traced the line from the guitar through her hair (the diference being, I followed the correct angle) and I can safely say the neck of the guitar is just behind her hair.
Come on people, I'm sure you can use the ruler tool too.
Another fail for PsdDisasters.
It isn't funny if the error is yours, guys.
If you do the line much more precisely - from the very bottom of the guitar you will notice that the line passes behind her hair and not where it is drawn!!!
The guitar line is wrong:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7623/guitarl.jpg
This doesn't necessarily mean the top wasn't 'shopped out, but it does mean someone is bad at drawing lines.
Even if the handle of the guitar is there (which I'm having a hard time believing), there's still something going on with her hair at the top right-ish part of the picture... you can obviously see some sort of editing. Also her right arm (our left) looks a lot thicker than her left arm (our right), and the space between her arm and guitar on the right side of the picture doesn't make sense.
And somehow I doubt that Paul So-in-so really worked on this cover.
And why does the inside of her right arm look like it has a mirror finish? It looks like it is reflecting the white of the guitar in a very unnatural way. Weird!
I can't believe I have stared this long at a photo of Miley Cyrus. I don't know why, but I find her physically revolting. Something about her electric white teeth, and her mongoloid-ish eyes and bulbous Jimmy Durante nose (which I'm sure will be fixed soon enough).
That's just my opinion and I don't expect anyone else to agree. I fully recognize the fact that she is considered attractive by most, and that I am in the vast minority.
I know paul probably isn't reading this anymore, but there are little spaces in her hair where guitar should be, but there is not. there is definitel the tuning things at the top but somewhere in the middle, guitar has gone missing. don't be such a dick.
I got this issue in the mail, and I totally did not notice that D: is it really that hard to have her hold a fucking guitar and snap a picture of it? Jeez...
Paul, if you made this, you should be fired. The position of her torso makes the positioning of her arms awkward at best. It looks like you tried to comp a pic of someone holding a guitar onto the torso of Cyrus. The fact that the neck and headstock vanish in places behind her hair where it would otherwise be apparent further corroborates this. (Consider also the transparent headstock at the top.)
Her elbows don't match up at all and look particularly unnatural; her hips are straight forward, but her torso is either turned to her left or 'chopped to "enhance" her breast line.
The more I look at it, the worse this gets.
But does she really *play* guitar?
"I'm right. You're wrong"- wow, that is, like, SO convincing, and totally not making you sound like an asshole.
the "TM" part killed me!
I agree with people saying that Paul you're a bit of a tool... but I hate to say it I think you all are wrong saying the guitar has been deleted. Yes, it looks odd. And that in itself would concern me if I was art director. But the line Adam drew is what I got too.
Looks like the real Photoshop Disaster in this case is the "PsD Guitar-Detector (TM)." Sorry, this blog is great 99% of the time, but not this time.
I dunno, if it doesn't look right (even if it is) then it isn't right. I mean, if I were to pick up the magazine and take a glance at the cover, I'd think that is was a disaster--regardless of the fact that is really isn't.
She is holding the guitar straight up and down. But if the top is under her hair, it would have to be leaning back into her, or else it would be against her cheek. It would have to bend at quite an angle to not be against her cheek. See how above her head it's well behind her? That angle does not work at all. She would have to be holding it really far out, or, have no neck/back of head.
I personally think it was against her cheek and they pasted a new head on it to show her whole face.
Sorry Paul, that's not a decent excuse. Yes it's there, but no it couldn't be like that.
That's just the new hybrid guitar: half real guitar, half air guitar.
Her right arm looks really weird. Just sayin.
Miley does look a little revolting in this picture. I don't think she always does, but the weird guitar thing, the weird arm thing, the creepy fake smile thing...they add up.
Paul Kramer is right to be upset. There is nothing wrong with this picture (well technically, I don't like the subject much).
As mentioned by several others if you draw lines correctly, eg each side of the neck or the high and low strings from the bridge it's clear the guitar neck passes behind her hair.
Humongous fail.
I think the subtext here is she's so musical, the instrument has become part of her.
*tee hee*
I have a guitar.
You can't hold it like this! It's physically impossible! If the body if the guitar goes straight up along her torso, then the neck of the guitar can only continue on along her neck.
It is photoshopped in, and it is a PsD, don't let them fool you guys.
WV:brable
Something about her head is just... Weird. o.O
Those of you crying "fail PSD!", I will grant you that the red line on PSD is wrong, but I think Camthan is totally right. Not only, as others have mentioned, is the headstock transparent and is there light showing thru her hair where there should be guitar if Paul were telling the truth, but as Camthan says, it isn't the side angle that's wrong, it's the front to back angle. That neck should be right next to her face. And that's without considering the supremely unnatural things going on around her torso and arms.
Hm, it looks like a Paul Kramer is Production Director for Glamour, but Adler, he apparently also agrees with your asshole assessment (see paragraph 5).
Good god, if anything is worth this much debate about a drab technicality then clearly it's not a fail. if you have to (badly) draw a silly red line on a photo then it's clearly fine.
If this was a genuine error then phrases like "You shoudl get out more." would be apt. Seeing as it's not even an error in the first place, I think all hope has already gone.
The more I look at this, the more it looks like a head/torso shot of MC was comped over a picture of someone else holding a guitar. It doesn't look like those arms belong to her. The right arm (her right) *is* weird.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am.
Maybe she has one of those guitars that go from normal sized neck to so-super-skinny-you-could-fit-it-behind-a-few-strands-of-hair.
*cough*
I think Paul, you should blame the dumbass people who would put Miley Cyrus on the cover of anything, then you wouldn't be here, defending your work.
wv: wakedagg
They've given here some good 'ol boy Walton teeth too - dag-nabbit muskee!
If you look closely you can see the headstock and tuning knobs behind her hair. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how the headstock and tuning knobs got behind her hair without he holding the guitar out away from her body and tilting it back onto her shoulder. She clearly has the bottom of the guitar pressed against her body, so it's impossible for the headstock to be behind her hair.
Your guide line is disgustingly far off from the actual direction it is going. The guitar is tilted backwards as well, and once you see that, it becomes horribly obvious how incorrect the guideline is.
John T Meche:
She clearly does NOT have the guitar pressed against her, she is clearly leaning slightly into it, causing it to tilt on her shoulder, back behind her head.
I have to seriously wonder if anyone who's thinking that that is a screw up has ever seen (a) a guitar (b) a woman
I usually agree with the PsDs, but I think you don't have the line drawn correctly. I pulled off the image and drew my own, and it lined up perfectly (allowing for taper or not, it would still be a straight line). There is a highlight in her hair right next to her head, but on study it does not look like air behind but rather light shining off her hair (which - let's face it - she probably uses conditioner and would have a bit of shine to it). Now, the arms you might be right on, but I believe the guitar was there.
PsD Fail...
The red line isn´t correct.
:)
Ye there's a few things wrong with this image, but nothing anywhere near validating a fail or a disaster. The guitar seems pretty legit to me ... and I comp for a living :P (aside from the possible oddness around the waist area ... but that could just be the original image/wardrobe or similar, which would be an art direction/photography issue, not a photoshop manipulation issue.
The artist was probably on a 20min deadline anyway, so all those haters calling for the firing of those responsible ... think again.
how is it possible that things like this get published...?!?!??!
@N.
The only one who called for a firing was me, though I'm not a "hater." While I definitely understand tight deadlines, what I don't like is such a glib attitude in the face of something that obviously doesn't look right and was haphazardly cobbled together.
To say, "There's nothing wrong with this because I said so," not only pushes the lines of credulity, but begs a repartee.
Ok, did anybody notice that the middle finger on her right hand has been amputated?
Whoever added that red line to the enlarged image deserves their own PSD entry. You can see that the line doesn't follow the frets on the neck of the guitar...
*sigh*
the "air" behind her hair is her earring... an earring!! And her amputated middle finger is not amputated at all but instead she is wearing a ring. It's jewelry people!!
I agree with most people that the guitar lines up perfectly. I am not even close to a fan of miley, but after all these comments I had to step in with my opinion. I'm a photographer and my clients use guitars in their photoshoots too - an angle like this IS possible.
i must express my disappointment that Paul has apparently deleted his original comments. I would love to have read what prompted such an onslaught of replies.
yeah, the guitar neck is weird, whether or not is actually there, but I think the worst thing (and what caught my eye first) is the gap inside her left upper arm.
http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q61/raedarius23/?action=view¤t=montanapicturenightmare.jpg
As just stated, guitar and ear-ring in order. Area under armpit badly wrong however...
one more thing - though her shoulders seem fairly even and her wrists are fairly even, her right elbow is much higher than her left. That doesn't seem anatomically possible.
At least they did an ok job with the teeth. I think it was here that they showed that her teeth were that of a six year old and they had to change it. As for the guitar neck, I think they did just accidentally cut a little out of the neck of the instrument when they made her hair. I can kinda see where it should be with the head of the guitar. It kinda makes sense and it kinda doesn't. little hard to tell.
Even with a magical guitar the rest of the shot is mediocre at best.
This should be the last word but of course it won't be.
That guitar is a Gibson Les Paul Studio. It is a set neck guitar so the neck is much thinner than the body. Also the neck is angled back from the body.
When held vertically against your body like in the photo, the neck rests on your shoulder, the top of the body against your chest and the lower section sticks out - with the headstock behind your head. To hold it straight up so the headstock is in front of your shoulder is unnatural. Ever seen a cello being played?
Oh, look, here's a photo of ugly me holding exactly the same guitar - except I can actually play it. Observant people will notice it's wine red instead of white and has chrome parts instead of gold.
http://tetsuo.gol.ad.jp/holding_gibson.jpg
Thank you tama.brett, someone with the balls to prove the point. The only thing wrong in the this pic is her creepy stare... apart from that this is not a fail at all. Not even close.
I follow this site daily and it seems to be trying really hard to find mistakes sometimes... like this one for example.
And yet most people still seem to go along for the ride, dismissing anyone who says otherwise.
P.S. sorry tama.brett for not letting you word be the last. :P
tama.brett : you're holding the guitar much too straight. She holds it a bit sideways. Look closer.
Awesome! One of my findings made it on my favorite site :)
Now let's move on to the hands. Her right hand, that is. What is up with the thumb?
Avoid parallel lines - they`re confusing.
tama.brett-
Assuming you aren't the same size as Miley Cirus, doesn't it make sense that the headstock would be much higher relative to her head when she holds the guitar versus when you do?
And it does look like she is holding it more vertically than you.
"I'm right. You're wrong" Wow Paul, how old are you, nine? Might as well be since you just delete your messages instead of admitting you were wrong! Sad, sad, sad.
ok, i dunno if there really is anything wrong with this but i do know that the "air" showing through her hair or light reflecting off her hair, is actually her **earring**. the guitar looks fine. the torso stuff and arms not matching, well are your arms perfectly symmetrical? bet they aren't. c'mon we all know that this was edited in photoshop just like all celeb photos are or really now days any photo is but its not a disaster.
My goodness. Now, I've called "no disaster" several times on this site myself, but this is one of the clearest ones I've ever seen. I can't believe people are debating it.
Maybe it's because I own a Les Paul. First, that headstock is definitely not in the right place. The headstock on a Les Paul extends outward of the neck by about an inch on each side - even taking the taper of the neck into account. This is *at least* two images comped together, and probably three, badly, using gradient layer masks on images that don't line up. The headstock and body of the guitar are clearly two different images, meant to be joined somewhere in her hair.
Second, the Les Paul is a chunky guitar. It's something like 2 inches thick, with sharp edges, and the top bulges out from there. When you hold one like this, your arms are pressed up against the sharp edges and your muscles bulge out in unsightly ways from the guitar pushing them out. Hers aren't doing that here, which they may have fixed, but I see more evidence of fixing stuff in other random places (like her inner elbow above the guitar) and no evidence of it where she should be contacting the guitar.
I don't think she's holding a guitar. At best, she's holding a *different* guitar (different make and everything, a smaller and thinner one), which is possible, and then they tried to replace it with this one. But I'll eat my hat if she was actually holding this guitar for this photo.
And nobody has yet been able to explain her breast-high waist that only seems to exist on one side of her body. She looks like she's got scoliosis.
This image has a large number of problems.
in the hair: ¿what's that behind her head?, is like a spot of shit!!!!! OMG...
Jeff, go outside, breathe some air. go for a walk... lifes precious and all that shit. The photo is fine.
Jeff, get your Les Paul and stand in front of a mirror.
And if you're uglier than me take a pic.
Ok, I've superimposed a pic of a Gibson of the same size over the guitar in this pic. Enjoy.
gwy9etc, you're only working in 2D, I was working in 3D.
Fail.
I would argue that even if the neck of the guitar is behind her hair, it is way too short. The instrument is, perhaps, angled back slightly, but not enough to warrant a head stock that would completely disappear behind her head.
If this is indeed a Gibson or Epiphone, the headstock itself and tuners would be present above her head. Those things are bricks!
tama.brett, while I appreciate the picture, there are two big differences.
The first is that your guitar is behind your bicep, and hers is clearly in front of hers. In that case, the guitar would not go back as much as it does in your case.
The second is that she has breasts. In order for her to be tilting it back, she would have to be holding it out farther. It looks to me from the shading on your shirt that you have a larger belly and smaller chest than Miley.
If you can take a picture of the guitar in front of your bicep and holding something under the guitar the size of a breast and get the same picture, I will concede that it's not a disaster (for the guitar part anyway)
Also, nice guitar!
On second inspection, her left arm is held back while her right arm is pushed forward, while both your shoulders are forward. That accounts for the bicep.
@tama.brett - yes, i was working in 2D, yet the knobs on her guitar lined up pretty much perfectly with those on the 2D model - which would indicate her guitar is straight up and down and NOT leaning backward. also, as for your 3D, you can see the bottom of your guitar, which you can't in the MC photo, the body is not in front of your left arm and you haven't sprouted half a pseudo waist just under your left breast. Fail.
Fail.
Fail.
Also, are you the same height as Miley Cyrus? Because you would have to be in order for the headstock to be at the same location on your head as on hers, yes?
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gwy9etc, your understanding of photography and perspective is very poor.
My photo is taken with a wider angle lens and the camera is lower. There is no way I can reproduce that photo exactly given I am bigger, fatter, and by myself (although my "breasts" are about the same size, thanks for that). What I showed conclusively is that a guitar can be held with the body in front of your own body and the headstock behind. That's the natural way of holding a guitar.
It's clear that on your superimposed version the neck is angled back as by the 12th fret the photos are already a lot out of alignment.
I love it when people argue about stuff on here.
Gentlemen, and ladies if applicable, get jobs.
I do believe everyone's overlooked the huge "Why so serious?" in this.
WOW! And these guys are PROFESSIONALS who work on FAMOUS SHOTS from FAMOUS PHOTOGRAPHERS?!? I'm pretty sure I do this stuff daily as a photographer and designer and if they're making the BIG BUCKS... SO CAN I!
This gives me hope! Come find me people. I'm a photoshop expert!
Haven't you guys ever heard of the no-neck guitar!??? It's all the rage among fake musicians.
She looks kinda like Brooke Smith here.
come on guys, it's obvious, the angle of your red line is completly random, just compare it to the angle of the strings....every child could tell...:)
Current Resident: NO, you are in no means weird. I find her terrifying as well. She doesn't deserve to have a guitar like that, even if she can't play it. I don't even know if it's possible to hold a Les Paul like that. It would have to be angled to get the headstock to go behind your hair. You can't have the guitar's body pressed to yours and have the headstock do that. *Going to try it with mine when I'm done here*
WV:Balylosi
Hhahahahahha idiiiots, miley sucks
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