The weird thing is I think the Blacker one is the one with the most work done on it. Beyonce has a really light skin tone ... it appears they made her blacker, which is interesting.
sometimes it's the lighting, but still. I hate it when they lighten a dark skinned woman's skin, but the 2nd person is right. Beyonce IS very light-skinned for a black woman.
It's like "Spot the difference". How much hair does she really have? Is she pushing her left breast forward with her arm, or does it do that naturally?
This is not a Photoshop Disaster so much as Beyonce is a Life Disaster. All anyone had to do to turn this paragon of black womanhood into a honky was dial down her skin tone a little.
That's the key to understanding these two cover shots. The ash table that I bought for my living room in 2007 has darkened over the course of time, too.
Obviously this reflects changing attitudes in Russia - 2007 Russians would've run screaming had they seen a black woman with an average rack and normal-big hair on the cover of a mainstream magazine. Here in 2009 they can cope much better, so Photoshop is not required.
My translation:
"Rhubarb - the colon of the Mary Hooker is surprisingly simultaneous to the cooper of the magazine June, released in Deborah 2006. On today's college boys spoken of in the direction of an increased pornographic look, sometimes the happened before can set in."
Seems like the Glamour Photograph went into the past, back into 2007 to take this shot, and while he later traveled back into his own Time her Body magically darkened and stuff... D: Yeah, right...
Looks like glamour removed her upper arm (which does look strange in front of her breast like that) and "cut" her hair while they were at it. Removing the upper arm made her look a lot slimmer, too.
As far as the coloring goes, I get the impression that it is common for her coloring to be shown in a variety of ways. Sometimes I see a commercial or a video and I have to concentrate to tell if it is Beyonce or not. Sometimes she's shown as light and sometimes she's darker. What's her real coloring more like?
wv: foozots! (that's what the magazine editor said when he saw this.)
My Polish girlfriend can do that. Wait, no she can't.
@sprigig: I'm inclined to blame lighting conditions/camera filters for the color difference between photos 1 and 3 - the sky is completely washed out in photo 1.
Beyonce does tend to have very light skin but wonky conditions make her look darker. She's half black, half Creole if I remember correctly which might explain her interesting skin tone. But silly, silly Russian Glamour. I don't think I've ever seen Beyonce THAT dark before.
Haha, it’s brilliant so see how pronounced the effects of magazines’ photoshopping can be with a comparison to another. I really like this website by the way. I’ve been through all the archives!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beyonce_2.jpg and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beyonce_Smile2.jpg are unretouched shots. Not surprisingly, her actual skin color is somewhere twixt the two.
@Anna, they come from some of the previous PSDs that seem to point out that polish companies for some reason have the stupid habit of removing black people from they're promotion photos as seen here and here.
Creole is black person who is mixed. Nothing special it's just a glorified way of saying you have a mixed white and Indian heritage. Mostly white anyhoo. Intergenerational mixing has caused Beyonce to look the way she does.
In Russia the shade of brown/black you are has a lot to do with your social stance in the country. Some women will never be able to marry in Germany because of the shade of their color. I don't remember which is which.
>Do Russian readers understand the Latin alphabet?
Kind of. In our schools english is a required subject. It's not enough to actually learn to speak it fluently, but alphabet and lots of "simple" words - are sort of a common knowledge.
Re the Latin alphabet thing, I find it interesting that Joy uses Latin for the title but puts the Cyrillic transliteration in small print in brackets next to it. (Glamour doesn't seem to bother).
Also one of the cover lines on Joy spells out "make up" in Latin letters. Is there really no Russian Cyrillic term for make-up?! I can kind of understand Jay-Z being spelt in Latin, as a Western name, and yet they transliterated Beyonce.
Can any Russian explain why some words are spelt out in Latin letters even in Russian text?
Short answer: It's a goddamn girly magazines, what do you expect?
Long answer: 1) There is no separate russian word for "glamour", it's a loanword. So it is very well-known, even in Latin transliteration, no need to repeat it in russian. 2) There is a russian word for "make-up". But apparently, bimbos think it's cool to put in your speech random foreign words. 3) Beyonce is a normal name, whereas Jay-Z - is a rapper nickname. I know it doesn't make much sense, but rapper nicknames we usually write in english (Ice-T, LL Cool J and so on)
The Glamour is just the Russian edition of the American magazine, it's not some weird coincidence. There are many popular women's magazines that have localized editions in various countries. The variations in content range from small things like reviewing locally available products and clothing and showing prices of clothes in local currency, to having different feature articles.
Just lovely that some racist jerk can use the word Injun and not get corrected. Yeah, that's right, my fellow Amurikkkans: steal the country and then slap the survivors in their face.
Ciste- Do you scour the internet, looking for things to huffily decry as "racist"?
Why's the word "injun" racist? It's merely slang for "Indian", which we all know is what Native Americans were called, before "Native American" became de riguer.
And, just so I can understand your logic: Are ALL Americans guilty of "stealing the country", regardless of when their ancestors immigrated, and from where?
More importantly-- are individuals born guilty of anyone else's actions?
It doesn't surprise me that a Russian magazine would make her look darker.
Since the point is to mislead and ignite racial prejudice. Of course according to magazine your skin tone goes through transformations of a lifetime: In winter you are ligh skin, and in summer you just change a whole ot of shades.
why where native peoples called indians in the first place?
and yes, if they do not acknowledge the wrongs that their ancestors did and FROM WHICH THEY AMPLY PROFITED, individuals are guilty from the time that they are able to express themselves.
Sorry to spoil the fun but actually its just a bad scan of the original Glamour, I've got it in front of me. It is actually somewhere in the middle between the two. She is nothing like as black. It looks normal I would say. The Joy cover looks more Latino.
Beyonce is NOT mixed. She is a black woman. Creole means only that her European ancestors were from France (allegedly), not Ireland or Britain like most African-Americans' are. Creoles can be of any race. Beyonce is lack and there are millions of black people with her skin tone and lighter!
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The weird thing is I think the Blacker one is the one with the most work done on it. Beyonce has a really light skin tone ... it appears they made her blacker, which is interesting.
sometimes it's the lighting, but still. I hate it when they lighten a dark skinned woman's skin, but the 2nd person is right. Beyonce IS very light-skinned for a black woman.
Very strange. Were they afraid people wouldn't know that she's black, so they decided to help them?
It's like "Spot the difference". How much hair does she really have? Is she pushing her left breast forward with her arm, or does it do that naturally?
What is in front of her chest on the left one?
Razor-sharp smile. What a joke(r)!
My black woman can do that!
hmmm,and in Poland she would be replaced by a White singer...
They also gave her a haircut... WTF??
Not a disaster. She obviously spent her lunchbreak out in the sunshine during the shoot. Epic fail.
Are you kidding me?
"Translator please".......*awaits stampede of idiocy*
This is not a Photoshop Disaster so much as Beyonce is a Life Disaster. All anyone had to do to turn this paragon of black womanhood into a honky was dial down her skin tone a little.
Amusingly, the Joy cover appears to be from 2007, while the Glamour cover is from 2009.
That's the key to understanding these two cover shots. The ash table that I bought for my living room in 2007 has darkened over the course of time, too.
ok, so you're happy when you are white but glamorous when you are black. As MJ said, doesn't matter if you're black or white.
In Soviet Russia, magazine buys you!
Obviously this reflects changing attitudes in Russia - 2007 Russians would've run screaming had they seen a black woman with an average rack and normal-big hair on the cover of a mainstream magazine. Here in 2009 they can cope much better, so Photoshop is not required.
My translation:
"Rhubarb - the colon of the Mary Hooker is surprisingly simultaneous to the cooper of the magazine June, released in Deborah 2006. On today's college boys spoken of in the direction of an increased pornographic look, sometimes the happened before can set in."
WV: "retradse" - Russian for 'retards'.
The Joy photoshopper went hog-fucking-wild unsharpmasking her hair!
Wow, they surely had a good time in photoshop with that.
Seems like the Glamour Photograph went into the past, back into 2007 to take this shot, and while he later traveled back into his own Time her Body magically darkened and stuff... D:
Yeah, right...
Looks like glamour removed her upper arm (which does look strange in front of her breast like that) and "cut" her hair while they were at it. Removing the upper arm made her look a lot slimmer, too.
As far as the coloring goes, I get the impression that it is common for her coloring to be shown in a variety of ways. Sometimes I see a commercial or a video and I have to concentrate to tell if it is Beyonce or not. Sometimes she's shown as light and sometimes she's darker. What's her real coloring more like?
wv: foozots! (that's what the magazine editor said when he saw this.)
black, white whatever...
I'm more bothered by the fact that the same photo was used for 2 magazine covers.
I find it weirder that there are Russian magazines named "Joy" and "Glamour".
Here ya go. Picture one and picture three of her SI spread, two different pictures but the same range of skin tone:
http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20011789,00.html
@ N.
You are completely full of shit.
remind me to NEVER buy a magazine in my lifetime. What a waste!
My Polish girlfriend can do that.
Wait, no she can't.
@sprigig: I'm inclined to blame lighting conditions/camera filters for the color difference between photos 1 and 3 - the sky is completely washed out in photo 1.
Beyonce does tend to have very light skin but wonky conditions make her look darker. She's half black, half Creole if I remember correctly which might explain her interesting skin tone. But silly, silly Russian Glamour. I don't think I've ever seen Beyonce THAT dark before.
Haha, it’s brilliant so see how pronounced the effects of magazines’ photoshopping can be with a comparison to another. I really like this website by the way. I’ve been through all the archives!
@F, In poland they would paste Marante(portuguese singer) over her photo.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beyonce_2.jpg and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beyonce_Smile2.jpg are unretouched shots. Not surprisingly, her actual skin color is somewhere twixt the two.
@F and marco Lopes: what's with the stupid Polish comments?
wv: deachic as in: you are so de-chic!!!
@Anna, they come from some of the previous PSDs that seem to point out that polish companies for some reason have the stupid habit of removing black people from they're promotion photos as seen here and here.
They got the darker skin tone wrong. It's kind of grayish. No one looks like that.
its the anti racism!
@ CRash
Creole is black person who is mixed. Nothing special it's just a glorified way of saying you have a mixed white and Indian heritage. Mostly white anyhoo. Intergenerational mixing has caused Beyonce to look the way she does.
I thought Creoles were a Native American tribe.
She certainly looks like she might have Injun blood.
In Russia the shade of brown/black you are has a lot to do with your social stance in the country. Some women will never be able to marry in Germany because of the shade of their color. I don't remember which is which.
@Burlesk Grotesk
Translation:
Joy:
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Now or never
-Go to see man striptease
-Spend salary on dream shoes
-Fly to Maldives
I have found happiness with my ex (6 stories with happy endings)
Astrological guide to men
Find out everything about him
How is he in bed, his attitude to marriage, how generous he is
Everything about your sign-ascendent (don't ask, I have no idea what it is)
in bed with Beckham: exclusive interview
10 top trends
Silk dresses, coloured fur, bright makeup, voluminous curls
Beyonce and Jay-Z: will there be a marriage after cheating?
Glamour:
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Sex-marathon: readers about the most intimate
NO
Best russian blogs about fashion, beauty and stars
Beyonce
I'm not afraid to feel
379 hits of beach fashion
7 steps to the dream figure
Golden youth
New date laws
What is lying ahead of us?
Neon accessories
Glimmering makeup
Sparkling romance
-----
I doubt that made much sense, but trust me - the in russian the text sounds equally silly
@ Gleb
Thanks muchly for the translation.
This confirms glamour magazines are trite and inane the world over.
P.S. I choose the light Beyonce, but only because her breasts are larger.
Question: Do Russian readers understand the Latin alphabet?
If I saw a magazine named, say "Тротуарная" I wouldn't even know how to pronounce that.
same dichotomy from an earlier post: http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2008/08/loreal-oops-with-levels.html
to Darren Stone:
>Do Russian readers understand the Latin alphabet?
Kind of.
In our schools english is a required subject. It's not enough to actually learn to speak it fluently, but alphabet and lots of "simple" words - are sort of a common knowledge.
Re the Latin alphabet thing, I find it interesting that Joy uses Latin for the title but puts the Cyrillic transliteration in small print in brackets next to it. (Glamour doesn't seem to bother).
Also one of the cover lines on Joy spells out "make up" in Latin letters. Is there really no Russian Cyrillic term for make-up?! I can kind of understand Jay-Z being spelt in Latin, as a Western name, and yet they transliterated Beyonce.
Can any Russian explain why some words are spelt out in Latin letters even in Russian text?
WV: palin!
to Rob:
Short answer: It's a goddamn girly magazines, what do you expect?
Long answer:
1) There is no separate russian word for "glamour", it's a loanword. So it is very well-known, even in Latin transliteration, no need to repeat it in russian.
2) There is a russian word for "make-up". But apparently, bimbos think it's cool to put in your speech random foreign words.
3) Beyonce is a normal name, whereas Jay-Z - is a rapper nickname. I know it doesn't make much sense, but rapper nicknames we usually write in english (Ice-T, LL Cool J and so on)
@ Lisa and Rob:
The Glamour is just the Russian edition of the American magazine, it's not some weird coincidence. There are many popular women's magazines that have localized editions in various countries. The variations in content range from small things like reviewing locally available products and clothing and showing prices of clothes in local currency, to having different feature articles.
Just lovely that some racist jerk can use the word Injun and not get corrected. Yeah, that's right, my fellow Amurikkkans: steal the country and then slap the survivors in their face.
Ciste- Do you scour the internet, looking for things to huffily decry as "racist"?
Why's the word "injun" racist? It's merely slang for "Indian", which we all know is what Native Americans were called, before "Native American" became de riguer.
And, just so I can understand your logic: Are ALL Americans guilty of "stealing the country", regardless of when their ancestors immigrated, and from where?
More importantly-- are individuals born guilty of anyone else's actions?
Yeah-- you're an enlightened thinker.
Apearantly she wasn't "black enough" for the Glamour magazine. hehe
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It doesn't surprise me that a Russian magazine would make her look darker.
Since the point is to mislead and ignite racial prejudice. Of course according to magazine your skin tone goes through transformations of a lifetime: In winter you are ligh skin, and in summer you just change a whole ot of shades.
hmmm Nu da, mne tak i pokazalos'....NOT!
She isn't either of those colors.
I'm not sure anyone is.
They both reprinted this photo and Photoshopped her.
This is the original cover from the actual shoot: http://entertainmentrundown.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/beyonce-uk-cosmopolitan-cover_.jpg
lisa, you're still a racist idiot.
why where native peoples called indians in the first place?
and yes, if they do not acknowledge the wrongs that their ancestors did and FROM WHICH THEY AMPLY PROFITED, individuals are guilty from the time that they are able to express themselves.
Sorry to spoil the fun but actually its just a bad scan of the original Glamour, I've got it in front of me. It is actually somewhere in the middle between the two. She is nothing like as black. It looks normal I would say. The Joy cover looks more Latino.
Beyonce is not light skinned she's more of honey brown complexion. she and her sister have been bleaching their skin for years.
beyonce is not that light she and her sister have been bleaching their skin for years.
Black is Black and creole is creole voice of reason stop being a fucking racist
Beyonce is NOT mixed. She is a black woman. Creole means only that her European ancestors were from France (allegedly), not Ireland or Britain like most African-Americans' are. Creoles can be of any race. Beyonce is lack and there are millions of black people with her skin tone and lighter!
YOU MAKE GOOD WORK
I actually saw this in Russia last summer...hilarious!
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